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m-hodges 18 minutes ago [-]
> We discovered that Moonshot AI, the company that produces the Kimi family of models, silently forwarded customer requests to Claude, instead of processing them using Kimi. Moonshot then displayed Claude’s responses to users. These users thought they were using a Kimi model, but received responses from Claude instead.
> DeepSeek also silently relayed exchanges to Claude without informing DeepSeek customers.
> MiniMax built its own proxy network service through a shell company. This shell company has no obvious links to MiniMax and does not disclose its relationship to its parent company. This shell proxy network service only offers access to models developed by Anthropic and OpenAI. The service does not offer access to any Chinese models, including Minimax’s own.
enraged_camel 56 minutes ago [-]
"Moonshot serves Claude instead of Kimi and collects exchanges for model training"
"DeepSeek serves Claude instead of its own models and collects exchanges for model training"
Obviously. This is how they were able to score so high in benchmarks.
> DeepSeek also silently relayed exchanges to Claude without informing DeepSeek customers.
> MiniMax built its own proxy network service through a shell company. This shell company has no obvious links to MiniMax and does not disclose its relationship to its parent company. This shell proxy network service only offers access to models developed by Anthropic and OpenAI. The service does not offer access to any Chinese models, including Minimax’s own.
"DeepSeek serves Claude instead of its own models and collects exchanges for model training"
Obviously. This is how they were able to score so high in benchmarks.